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Pat C

Anouther nice one!! I find myself as of late buying receivers and various parts to eventually become my own spin on my favorite rifles. I have 1876 frame ,1892 SRC 44 almost complete , original deluxe 1894 just missing a barrel , 1873 lacking just a couple pieces and TLC , The 1876 is a new found lo...

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Yeah I talked to Bob over at Winchester barrels a while back ,looks like a good option . But I keep leaning toward having Lilga Barrels make me a heavy and I 'll just do machine work myself.. Parts are so limited and most not in good shape so my goal is to make every part from modern steel .

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No wild hogs yet, but I really like that 50-95 express.
Thats the caliber I had been thinking of chambering that orphaned 1876 action I have in.
Had even toyed with making extra heavy octagon barrel version .
My project is very ambitious ,just got to get motivated.
Your threads on the 76 are helping.

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Really nice rifles , I hope someday to rebuild that stripped receiver I have into a shooter. Had hoped to make everything from scratch out of modern steel .
Just finding time will be the biggest issue.

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My friends cousin was 85 ,recently passed. Had been most recent owner. Supposedly his preferred maintenance was pour SAE 30 over it . Before he passed it on he said he sure hoped it could be made to work again. Other than extreme grime and gunk it was in firing condition but carrier was froze up . T...

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A friend of mine inherited this old 73 from a two generation family ownership . Spent its life in pacific northwest in some fairly tough conditions. He didn't have any intereat in fixing it ,so he passed it on to me . As you can see its pretty tuff shape ,first thought it was nickel plated but compl...

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Here is a 2020 auction for one ,estimated value was $400-$600 , sold for $1188 with buyers premium.

https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/mexic ... rc-4014916

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Michael twobit said he would stop by tomorrow with more info.

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Sent Michael twobit a message ,I'm sure he has info that will help. The value in this piece is in how it was in the Argentina Police .

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If I had to guess Michael (twobit) who has the 1892 survey going on will probably know the scoop. I remember reading a little and had even saved a few pictures on an old computer . But honestly didn't interest me enough that I remember exactly. He is a member here , WACA , Gunboards, I would contact...

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Didn't Century import these ? I've seen them for sale
Just cannot remember for sure.

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I like this much better.

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Looking at three different Winchester componant catalogs it shows three heights .360 , .381 , and .435
The latter are series 21C and 21H ,the lower is Lyman .
None are listed by caliber only listed as sporting rifle .

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They are available at McKrackin Research Library center of the west. You can view them online ,or buy digital or print copies . Most of the 1876 prints are there ,some are protype though .Most are copyrighted

http://library.centerofthewest.org/digi ... del%201876

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No stranger to the 1892 , been one of my favorites last 30 years or so. I've owned a number of them and most have came locally at two shops which Unfortunatly are retired now. They both specialized in antique and collector guns. 1892 rifles and carbines have always been a little more expensive than ...

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My project is to make a new barrel for my 1876 frame but most know me it will have to be perfectly done exact replica down to the font on the Winchester markings . Making the barrel is no problem for me but I'll have to send it for engraving to mark the legends and caliber . Hand stamps will not suf...

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Anyone here have a reproduction barrel from Winchester Barrels or Mike Hunter Restorations ? Trying to decide whether I'm going to make it myself or use one of these two vendors. Myself ,blank costs $250 ,reamer for 50-95 is $213 PTG Engraving ? Lot of time Winchester barrels $550 turn key Mike Hunt...

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Good info,thanks . Liking at the blueprints at Cody there are several sizes of bolts and levers . I think they did a lot of trial and error work on the 1876. Many of the drawings ate dated 1875. The barrel I plan on using Winchester Barrels, as their barrel will have roll die markings to match origi...

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Rest in peace , prayers for his family.

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I appreciate the link , honestly I have not looked at everything there . I need to join up as well. My goal is to machine all of the internals ,maybe buy springs ,sear,hammer etc. All of the blueprints are available at Cody but there are a number of variations that eventually became the 1876. Its ma...

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Has anyone here tried to use any of the Uberti 1876 parts in an original WRA receiver? Mainly Bolt , carrier block, toggle links ,carrier lever etc. I have a stripped frame/lever (broken tip)and am contemplating a custom project using Winchester Barrels big .50 express barrel and either making from ...

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Hard to beat a 9 bolt battery and steel wool for fire starter.
I suspect 9 bolt battery last for couple decades in a kit protected.

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Nice bucks , Dad always loved his Marlin .35 and was his favorite deer rifle. I used the Contender .35 to harvest a doe one year 14 " hunter barrel ..35 is a excellent brush gun.

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When my son was in boy scouts we made these as a project using PVC tubing with end caps on about 3"-4" long .
We had fishing line ,hooks,sinkers,9volt battery ,steel wool ,dryer lint ,
They float and are water proof.

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That 1876 is I, really fine condition .Wonderful rifle and by the sounds of it still gets the job done . Thanks for sharing this !

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Most 1894 SRC had gum wood stocks,I've had a couple with walnut .Yes 1892 and 1894 use same stock.
Dobt know anyone making a replacement other than Walnut.

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Precision Gunworks of Texas or Gunville of NC both manufacture a 95% inserted SRC black walnut stock .
Either are excellent ,easy to finish. Usually just some light scraping in and final shape to action.And finally sand,stain,finish.0

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I would also like a nice 1st gen 38 WCF ,had several 3rd gens and ordered a 45 from Colt custom shop in 1994.
It was beautiful ,too nice and felt guilty to shoot so I traded it. Now they are double what I paid then. $950
Workmanship on the custom shop SAA was very nice.

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Original front sight was broke off too low ,so I found and original installed .Shoots dead on 25 yrds with this new CCI WRF ammo kneeling . Pretty happy 112 year old 1890 bore no better than 6 out of 10 and still off a bench would easily pass inspection at WRA .Nice hard strikes on case too. The CCI...

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Fired 10 rounds of Winchester vintage ammo from it 25 yards kneeling . Still suitable for small game ,given the bore is probably 6 of 10 I'm happy.
Cold today near zero wind chill.

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Purdy!! ,

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You know if I recall Remington's high speed WRF was called .22 WRF Remington special with 1500 fps

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Got one of these from a neighbor for cleaning out their chicken house (about 1953). It was brown patina mostly but with no pitting or active rust, but the bad news was that the bore was almost blocked with stuff. Took it to my favorite gunsmith (I'm sure kids weren't his favorite customers....) and...

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Never knew anyone that tried .22LR in a WRF .In a as new bore might be fine .My rifle however the bore is worn and has some patches of scattered pitting.
Still has rifling and shootable but not close to perfect.

CCI page.

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CCI makes it currently , $17 .99 per 50 .buy right from there web store.

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Group shot. ,,, 62A , 1906,1890 ,and Rossi 62

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I suspect standard .22 LR would key hole out of the WRF as the bore is larger by .004 inch .
Good news is CCI WRF .35 cents a round.

WRF bore new is .220" ,groove .226" 1-14 twist
LR. Bore new is .217" ,groove is .222" 1-16 twist

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One of my favorite .22 rifles is J.M. Brownings patent slide action rifle ,made by Winchester Repeating Arms.
This one the model of 1890 made in 1910 in 22 WRF

Little retro picture beside an old hickory tree .

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The bottom probably broke through during machining ,as long as there are no burrs ,firing pin moves freely is only concern .

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Your saying its rusted/eroded on the slot wall? Careful stoning of the wall to make sure extractor can move freely .Mostly cosmetic damage. The 1894 rifle/carbine can be an entire collection because of all the little variations and subtle changes. As some might think its one of my great interests in...

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Just a little to what's already been pointed out, from 1894 to 1964 the design is basically same .The first pattern hammer had the tombstone style checkering .After turn of the century standard square border checking all the way to WW2 . After the war the serrated hammer came out but still has the s...

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I've seen this a number of times with dealers , only way to get cash price is to buy in person and pay with cash in their shop. Still old fashioned I like to send MO for guns. Pretty much every gun for sale is also for sale locally, no bids they can stop an auction at anytime to sell locally. Next w...

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I thought Jessie James 's documented pistol was Remington 1890 ?

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Here is a sketch of the original hole for stop screw. If you were to weld it. The screws are easy to find but the tap would have to be special made as its obsolete. The correct size is 11 - 36 (.203) - 36 Depending what will clean up to make threads , the 12 -36 option would work and no welding .Plu...

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Nice picture,and classic levergun .Dont hunt anymore but always enjoyed carrying a vintage rifle or carbine . Often drew a sight on game and wondered how many past owners and where/what did the same . Had an 1892 SRC one time that had many notches cut in the wrist as well as a crude deer head carvin...

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Looks like the receiver W/P is gone but right edge of oval ? If so its Definatly a refinish . Both the receiver and barrel will be proofed after assembly during this era.
The barrel proof is pretty thin too.

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The thing that stands out to me is how thin the model legend is . I think its a very old rework .Most of the old nickel plated guns usually the markings are very dark and usually always some tiny amount of flaking. I have had and seen worn dies with broken letters etc. though. I would think the W/P ...

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I responded over on gunboards to this, like said above the ramps on early rifles were forged as part of the barrel. Easily tell as the sides are radiused and have lateral polish marks along side. The sweated on ramp style you can see a line a long ramp edge and the barrel polish lines will disappear...

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Very Similier 1886 sold at Rock Island for $13,800 in 2019
Special order deluxe,28" barrel,swiss butt

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Thats a wonderful example , ultra rare . One person that comes to mind for appraisals on rare Winchesters is
Leroy Merz .He probably has had more rare Winchesters through his hands than anyone I know.

You have to appreciate the craftsmanship of these fine old Winchesters.

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