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Anyone have any comments on this rifle? I'm thinking of trading my Remington 1100 Sporting 28 in on one. I would like a big bore lever, but a 300 gr. .45 cal bullet at 1500 to 1600 fps is more than I'll ever need in PA. Maybe one in .30-30 to go along with my pre-64 carbine?

Thanks,

~Michael

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If you want one rifle and one handgun that are proven why not choose the M1 Garand and a 1911 .45? Well, the Garand is semi auto, illegal to hunt with here in PA, and the Garand's gas system is designed to operate with specific bullet weights (150 to 168 gr.) and powders/pressures. The Garand, whil...

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The factory .30-30 Winchester Super X 170gr Power Point will kill anthing you are likely to run across where you are. They penetrate well and expand well. And I think they have as much "power" as your going to be able to get out the .30-30. Out of my carbine I've seen velocities near 2200...

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Those 220gr .375 diameter bullets are made for the .375 Win., not the .38-55, which although VERY similar cases, ain't the same. .38-55 is sorta noted for having .379-.381 groove diameters. Once you find the right size bullet, tho', they're also noted for very good accuracy. I know guns from 100+ y...

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The Marlin Cowboy guns can run as high as .381" Why in the hell when jacketed bullets are .375 and .377 would Marlin make the bore that large?! What on earth where they thinking?! :shock: To the original poster, good luck with your rifle. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up one of the ...

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I posted here about those photos a few months ago. At the time it was mentioned that there's no excuse for mixing up #7 and Reloder 7. The bottles are different, and the powders are visably different.

~Michael

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http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=0950z94%20POST%2064%20TOP%20EJECT%20ANTIQUE All the parts are there except the guide rod. I have a guide rod. $10 I also have a hammer. $35 Use your spring, just shorten it. Hammer Hammer mainspring guide rod trigger sear you're done. Thanks...

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Last night I was shooting my Model 94AE .25-35 for the first time in a couple months. What would have been a nice group was ruined by the trigger. So, I've made up my mind something needs to be done about it. First thing is getting rid of the rebounding hammer. Looking at the various articles it loo...

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just picked up a little Stevens 20 guage, 311. Any of you brothers know how this shotgun is choked? Can't find a mark on it any place...she's even "pre-serial number" If you've got caliphers, measure the muzzle. A 20 ga bore should be .615". Take .615 and subtract what the muzzle mea...

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I'm among the minority that actually prefers the 180gr in the .30-06, to lighter (150 & 165gr) or heavier (220gr) slugs. Well, I think you'd have a lot of company, especially among old timers here in PA, that the 180 gr. bullet is the way to go. Personally, I don't see any reason to go above 15...

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Both my lever guns have bead front sights. I can shoot nice groups at 50 yards, but can't shoot a group (even with the help of a bench) at 100 yards. If I was hunting, I wouldn't try to shoot beyond 75 yards. With my 03A3 with it's blade front sight I have a much easier time at 100 yards. I feel rel...

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I checked the burning-rate chart in my 3rd Edition Vihtivuori reload manual & there's 9 powders between Bullseye & 700X, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not right next to one another in their burn rate........they could all be in the same "ballpark", burn-ratewise. jd45 ...

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Thanks for the replies, ordered a Fool Proof on sale at Midway and expect to have it by next weekend. Need some help with the rear sight that's already on there, dovetailed into the barrel. It won't budge. I've tried using a wood dowel and hammer, but I just wind up having the dowel split on the sig...

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I've decided to go ahead and put a receiver sight on my pre-64 Model 94. I believe it is already drilled and tapped (there are two small holes on the left side of the receiver, in the rear upper corner). What model of receiver sight would this be for, or would both a Williams FP (the model I'm looki...

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Also, this is more about defense than hunting... a frontal shot is most likely. Riot gun with the first shot 00 or 000 buckshot, followed by a slug, followed by more buckshot. As for .44 Mag vs .30-30.... Remington 275 gr. 44 load vs. 170 grain soft point Core Lokts.... the .30-30 at all ranges has...

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If/when SAAMI lowers their pressures, then OEM manufacturers lower theirs to comply with the new standards - which negatively impacts known velocities for OEM cartridges. A decent OEM offering one year could be stuff the next because they made the load "safe" for guns that should really o...

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A lot of the old pressure data was not accurate. I always point to the example of Hodgdon's reload data for the .25-35 with 4895 and the 117 gr Hornady. A couple years ago when I started reloading the listed max was 27 grains of 4895. It's now 22.5 gr. Someone screwed up somewhere. When a screw up ...

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Old Ironsights wrote: Yeah, every year old (bp) guns get more and more iffy... so they (as usual) punish the innocent to protect the dumb.

How are you being punished? There's nothing to stop you from running your reloads as hot as you like.

~Michael

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Just going with what we got. And what's the difference if the black dot I'm shooting at is on a piece of paper, or steel swinging from a stand? Niether is similiar to a running deer. :) I figured having the slow fire would give people the chance to practice that one well placed shot in a hunting pos...

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Been shooting NRA High Power at my local club, and the idea came to me that we should do something similiar in October or November with leverguns in preperation for deer season. The format I originally had in mind was: NRA SR1 Target at 75 or 100 yards, centerfire only, no restrictions on sights or ...

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RIHMFIRE wrote:Awesome
I am more into skeet...its a bit tougher than US trap

Set angles, open chokes, and people shooting 100 straight with a .410? And that's a tougher game than trap?

Join me back at the 27 yard line, and tell me how much tougher skeet is than trap.

~Michael

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They shoot Bunker in the Olympics. Targets travel about 90 MPH and you get 2 shots at each. IIRC they can only use 7/8 oz. of shot. They fire 2 shots at every target even if the first shot smokes the target, just to keep the rythum of firing the second shot. A very tough sport. Targets travel a lit...

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So let me see if I understand you correctly. Everyone that likes the way things here is wrong and should be put out because you don't like it and it should be changed to suit your tastes? Wow, isn't that kinda arrogant? Insert giant "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" Here. I guess the folks over at vi...

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Old Ironsights wrote:Much more sociable to have many convrsations around one big campfire than to spread the firewood out all over creation.

Fire lasts longer too.

Or in my case, I come into the Discussion forum, scan through the first page of topics, see that half of it is garbage, and leave.

~Michael

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I haven't been to this group in a while, partly because of other things I've got going on, and partly because it's such a mess. Why are there only two forums? General Discussion and Classifieds. I click on General Discussion and I get waaaaay too many political and OT topics. Set up forums specifica...

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I am looking at a Winchester 94 in 30-30 at a local gunshop. The serial # has the date of manufacture in 1972. The receiver has light surface rust all over it, but the bluing looks very bright. Barrel and muzzle looks great. I'm really interested but they want 500.00. That seems high for a used gun...

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Trap, and the .25-35 Win. I quickly learned if I reloaded I could drop my 12 ga trap loads down to 7/8 oz of shot and save on money and recoil, and still break targets. And the .25-35.... I had to reload if I wanted to afford to shoot it.

~Michael

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This topic got me to thinking.....appropriate warning here. Could it be that the 32 died out because it was too close in diameter to the German 8mm and the 30 was just considered more American in nature? Well, other than the .45, there's no other caliber more American than the .30 cal. But, the .32...

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They win by having a problem to "solve" and they won't have problems if they solve them. Yep, they have to have a reason to justify their existance. Govt's "job" is to expand it's power and authority and increase the public's dependence on them, and thereby guarantee it's contin...

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.25-35 Win. Big bore .30 and .32 cals are for poofs! Seriously though.... .30-30 vs. .32 Win Special.... 170 grain bullets, .013 difference in diameter, and maybe 100 fps difference in velocity (though it looks like BL-C(2) will push a 170 grain bullet out of a .30-30 just about as fast and anything...

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So Griff, based on your system what does that make this: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/RellimJ/Img_0124.jpg It does seem to be a rifle, based on the lack of barrel bands. Yet is has a carbine but stock and a short forearm. What say you? Oh, and where did you get your rifle bear? Joe Not G...

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Carbine, Defitition : a short-barreled lightweight firearm originally used by cavalry. While I agree that traditionally barrel bands maketh the levergun carbine, some just don't fit the above defintion. This 24" barrel Legacy model, for instance, would be somewhat unweildy when mounted. :) htt...

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Chew on this one a while what is the barrel length on a carbine compared to a rifle everybody I asked has a different opinion :? In the case of leverguns, it's not barrel length that makes a gun a rifle or carbine, it's barrel bands (carbine) or the lack there of (rifle). 1866 Rifle and Carbine htt...

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http://media.winchesterguns.com/wordpress/ "3. When is the Model 94 coming back? Well I can’t tell you for sure. Rest assured, as soon as we can! But that is not an official announcement of the management." Well, with Marlin churning out guns, and Mossberg and Henry now offering .30-30 lev...

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Mossberg 500.... my shoulder hurts just thinking about it! Those guns tend to be a bit light. If you have any heavier weight 12 ga. guns, I'd recommend using them. 13 outta 25 for your first round isn't bad. Best advice I can give you as a new shooter.... Full choke, shells that are 2 3/4 dram 1 1/8...

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. Yeah, I saw it. I thought it was pretty good. On the snipers segment, they said they were shooting a Remington model ? using .33cal ammo. I'm not familiar with either one, can somebody give me more info. Would that possibly be a .338 Lapua or variant? Looked up .338 ammo at Midway, and .338 Lapua...

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Did you notice Bill Oglesby shooting the 92 leveraction? They siad it was a Winchester but he was shooting a Rossi. Cut the hangmans rope, too. Cool!!! They said it was in 45 Colt also ... but did you see the round he showed? It looked like a giant CB Cap. A sort of stumpy conical looking bullet. I...

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Saw it too! Pretty cool. Wish they would have tried to emmulate the Billy Dixon shot though. That's what I was hoping for. Would have been neat to see an old Sharps shooting that far. The Army sniper segment got dragged out too long, and I wound up changing the channel and not watching much of the ...

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He commented that you won't have the range.He said that the max load you can use is 1 5/8 oz of shot. ??? And that's not enough shot?! Does he realize 3" steel loads are only in the 1 1/8oz to 1 1/4 oz range? The heaviest 3" load I've seen is Remington's HD loaded with 1 1/2 oz of shot. S...

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what a steal!....its 45 + bucks for a 25 pound bag of lead shot ! That should be changing soon (fingers crossed). It hasn't gotten above $40 a bag in my area (except for Gander Mnt), and as of right now lead is 86 cents per pound. http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/lead_historical_large.html ~Michael

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bsaride wrote:Thinking about a sidearm for my 1908 Marlin 30-30.

Colt New Service in .44-40 or .45 Colt is what I'd be looking for.

If you want a reasonably priced modern SAA, I'd look at the USFA Rodeo before an antiqued Uberti.

~Michael

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I have a Win 94 Canadian Cent. with a 26 in. barrel. That load in a 24 in. Marlin I had was 90 fps. slower. I seat to the cannalure on the bullet. I am not sure if it is compressed. Several of my fellow silhouette shooters are using this charge also with good results. Al Foust I loaded up a few mor...

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I have been using 34.0 grs. of RE-15 with a 170 Sierra for my Silhouette ram loads for about a year now. That load is very accurate and gives me 2345 fps. Wow, that's some serious butt for that weight bullet in a .30-30! :shock: With velocity like that, who needs Hornady's new ammo, right?! :D Are ...

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Not that I've done a lot of work, or had the chance to shoot the same load in several different rifle, but BL-C(2) seems to work well in my .30-30 with whatever 150 or 170 grain bullet I use. Also works well in my .25-35 Win. As for 30 grains of IMR 3031 under a 170 grain bullet.... Hodgdon lists th...

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Tried some Reloder 15 this weekend with Sierra's 170 grain bullet. Alliant lists 34.1 as the max load, so I started at 30.5 grains. After putting that amount of powder in the case, then looking at the 170 grain bullet, I knew there was no way anyone would ever fit 34.1 grains in there under any 170 ...

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Was looking at Alliant's reload data for the .30-30 using Reloder 7 and Reloder 15. The loads with Reloder 7 are quite a bit slower in velocity. Is this correct? Doesn't Reloder 7 produce higher velocities? Thanks, ~Michael Current version of RL-7 is about ideal for the .38-55 so I imagine it is a ...

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Was looking at Alliant's reload data for the .30-30 using Reloder 7 and Reloder 15. The loads with Reloder 7 are quite a bit slower in velocity. Is this correct? Doesn't Reloder 7 produce higher velocities?

Thanks,

~Michael

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Only have two levers, a late 50s 94 in .30-30, and a 2005 .25-35 Model 94. Pictured here with my 03A3

Of the levers, the .25-35 gets the most use so I guess it's the king.

~Michael

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Thanks Guys! I've been having fun taking photos of all this stuff. I'll have to get the M1 and 1917 next. 8) The M1917 rifle or pistol? If rifle, skip it and get a 1903 or 1903A3. They actually got some use in combat in WWII. :wink: Found this neat picture yesterday. It's from July or August '44 in...

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Bluehawk, I've done some reading on Varget, and you aren't the first guy I've come across using it for more and more cartridges. Sounds like an excellent all around powder. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person dissappointed with Varget in the .25-35. My .30-06 loads will be for shooting NRA High...

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