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by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Old Time Hunter wrote:I see no difference between what this government did and what Hitler's did in the '30's.
:shock:
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

BEEEEP! Wrong Answer. Statutory Rape is Statutory Rape. Period. Doesn't matter who's involved. It is just as illegal - by law - for a 13 y/o to impregnate a 13 y/o as it is for a 75 y/o to impregnate a 13 y/o. That is THE LAW. Sure, one is "grosser" than the other, but it it not "mor...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

El Mac...that was a cheap shot. It is clear no one here is trying to protect child molesters. Someone looking in from the outside could hardly tell it. But you just can't let the ends justify the means. No you can't. Which is why the legal system got involved in the first place. As a lawyer, I know...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

But if Pre-teen pregnancy is all they have in HARD evidence (anonymous telephone tips are still "hearsay"), then why aren't they stripping hundreds/thousands of children from their welfare-mom households in Huston/Dallas/SanAn, etc? Try real hard to put your thinking cap on here and engag...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Actually OI, you are the Bill Mahrist one to me. Thats right...suspend all rights against Christians and allow pagans, homos, cultists, Darwanists, etc to do whatever they want...just as long as it feels good and the gov't isn't involved. Sheesh. OI, I just don't see how anyone that calls himself a ...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Old Ironsights wrote:OH, BTW Mac, I want you to know you have the utmost support from the Athiest and Radical Left contingent of several forums.

You are in good (anti Constitutionalist) Company... :roll:
Riiiiight. Well do TELL OI! Do be a daisy and please don't keep it a secret!
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Old Ironsights wrote: It's called Splitting Hairs Hobie. It's the last refuge of the Desperate Debator.
More like Truth Telling.
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Pinhead Overlords...
Replies: 9
Views: 1479

yuk
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

BlaineG wrote:.......Personal Responsibility, anyone????
Now Blaine... :) You might be asking a bit too much.
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

You guys are at least humorous. At least the Jeff's Cult isn't raping any kids tonight. On the contrary, IF any of the charges are true they might well be and in that same compound as some of the wives have returned to the compound the men never left. Further, there are other compounds in other sta...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Then why hasn't the Govt raided all the other compounds/homes of all the rest of Silly Jeff's followers? Perhaps because they haven't the PC to do so yet. Its a court thing. "I don't like it, I'm afraid of it, I don't know what's going on, SEND IN THE TROOPS!" :evil: "I don't like it...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

You guys are at least humorous.

At least the Jeff's Cult isn't raping any kids tonight.
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT: Took the plunge - NRA Life Membership started(EPL)
Replies: 21
Views: 2988

Life. A good choice.... I'm saving my pennies for my boys to also have a Life Membership.
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

A nice little summary on The "Prophet". What a guy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs Some additional info that you might find interesting: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0767927567/104-5031106-2185504?SubscriptionId=19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2 http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B001658Z6E/104-50...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Now, as for the "alienated hostages" entering our society, you're making a huge assumption that it is even an option for them when they come of age. That is my main problem here: People are free to raise their families any way they please, so long as the children are allowed to depart the...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

You call shielding impressionable minds from the trash on tv and in society and ensuring they have a good moral backround holding them hostage, and consider the hip hop,rap, gangser trash better? No and no. Man you are one confused and irrational person. Me thinks thou dost protest too much. You mi...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

Ok... then why aren't there more arrests of parents/children taken away when yet another little black girl scomes to grade school pregnant? There probably should be. Oh, because she's in a "protected class" and not a member of a weird white-people cult - and going after HER parents wouldn...
by El Mac
Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - looks like FLDS "victim" was a hoax
Replies: 131
Views: 15924

I still think this is a case of he said/she said until the facts become more established. This call may have indeed been a hoax but it also might be her trying to get her 15 min. of fame by appearing to the tipster. What appears to be true at this point is that underage girls were having babies the...
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - This one is just about as bad as it could get...
Replies: 11
Views: 1715

So she is "faking it" but it will still be displayed. Its still just sick as all get out.

I'm with Texican on this. She shouldn't get one second of coverage by the media for such an abomination.
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - This one is just about as bad as it could get...
Replies: 11
Views: 1715

Texican, its all over the news outlets. I posted it only for folks to comment on if they wanted to - as the news outlets don't give us that opportunity.

It is a commentary on how sick factions of our society have become. I fear its just the tip of the iceberg.

No offense was meant on my part.
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - This one is just about as bad as it could get...
Replies: 11
Views: 1715

OT - This one is just about as bad as it could get...

This is one sick chick:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351608,00.html
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - People that cling to guns vote too!
Replies: 1
Views: 470

OT - People that cling to guns vote too!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9640.html
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Clinging Tightly
Replies: 26
Views: 4569

Cling on brother!
by El Mac
Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:17 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - Wanna see the future?
Replies: 11
Views: 2125

Ysabel Kid wrote: Didn't she flip out though and become an animal-rights wacko?
She did indeed. But one could almost forgive her for that by standing up to these kinda turds.
by El Mac
Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT - Wanna see the future?
Replies: 11
Views: 2125

OT - Wanna see the future?

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertai ... 9120080415

If only she would run for President.
by El Mac
Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT for AH1 Cobra pilots
Replies: 11
Views: 1893

Indeed, there is something about that Apache beast...with the US ARMY markings that strikes fear into those turd's hearts.
by El Mac
Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: OT for AH1 Cobra pilots
Replies: 11
Views: 1893

...but it still isn't an AH-64D Longbow. :lol:
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Any one remember what the reasons were that both Hitler and Stalin used to seperate children from their parents...it was supposd to be for the childrens protection. Both Stalin and Hitler contended that the children were being harmed by the influences of the beliefs of the parents. Hitler for speci...
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I am going on the "facts" as presented by the prosecutor's office, the sheriff and the news media. Exactly. You are going on what has been reported. In other words, you don't even begin to have all of the background knowledge to be able to come out so strongly against this action. The cou...
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

. I heard on the news that the County Sheriff had been working with an "informant" inside the FLDS for 4 years, nobody has mentioned that yet. Here's a link: Informant..! Maybe this search was NOT about the alleged phone call at all, but about information that the informant has given. I'm...
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

It ain't a perfect world. You do the best you can with the information given.
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:39 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

JohnnyReb,

You presume you already know everything about the case...you've read all the police reports, had a look at any physical/forensic evidence, read all the reports provided by the informants, perhaps even listened to all of the wire evidence, read any sealed indictments that may exist, etc....
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:30 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

May I ask, why are these polygamists different from Muslim polygamists? Why so much antipathy for these people (including the victimized women) and none for the Muslim community some of whom are doing the same things? I would argue that they aren't any different! I don't give a good darn who the he...
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:27 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Old Ironsights wrote:No, I'm saying you need more than a phone call. You need EVIDENCE.
Oh really? Ever heard of 911?

And I can guarantee you, there is much more on the table than a phone call. Guaranteed. It will come out.
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Old Ironsights wrote: Innocent until proved guilty - not Witch Burnings.
Well now, we finally agree. Like I said, let the courts do their job. The truth will come out.
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:46 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

You see, I CAN call them anything. Not exactly. Not without consequences - as least not when made outside of a psudonym. Until they have been PROVEN to "be" paedos/molesters, calling them such is SLANDER. In print, it is LIBEL. That is why not even the press will call them those things. T...
by El Mac
Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:39 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I was very curious what the response would be around here when this subject hit. It seems we have the Libertarians that assume the government, facilitated by the MSM, is violating everyone's rights; we have anti-pedophiles (though hopefully we are all anti-pedophiles); and, we have a dash of religi...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

So, we are frozen in our tracks due to "analysis paralysis"...and fear because, it might be the wrong thing. Maybe we should just sit idly by and suck our thumbs as the world whizzes by?
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I keep saying this...my opinion of them is meanlingless. I freely admit that. I'm willing to let the courts decide the outcome. But in the meantime, even the LDS has disavowed the FLDS. I doubt you are so thin-skinned OI that my questions insulted you. Now if I had come out and actually called you t...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

You see, I CAN call them anything. This is still a free country. But it means NOTHING until a court has decided...so let them do their job.

That is, unless you are worried the truth will come out??? Hmmm..... :shock:
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

OI

Old Ironsights, Why don't you just admit you are a nihlistic anarchist? All government is BAD, even those elected by free men. Right? Or perhaps, you are a member of the FLDS? Or do you just want all court actions and law enforcement operations run through YOUR department to get the final approval?
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Again, you are confusing Waco with the current FLDS situation. Two different cases handled very differently. I don't know anything about the Amish so I'll decline to comment. Having said that, I doubt very seriously they condone pedophilia. No...I'm quite far removed from being a social worker! :) H...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

...this den of cultist pedophilia whilst they get to the bottom of the allegations. Do you have some evidence to prove those allegations? No, nor do I need to provide it here to you or anyone else. Let the courts do their job. What makes these people a cult? The fact that they beleive the same and ...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Was it not common until the middle of the last century for girls to get married at ages younger than 18? Perhaps. That was then. Today, we know better. So any form of government abuse/violence is OK so long as we "do it for the children"... whether it's true or not? Don't elevate this bey...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I see I'm in the minority. I'm good with that. I have yet to see any Schutzenstaffel tactics in this case. Except of course by the brainwashing pedophiles. They are pretty good when it comes to picking on kids. Now we get to see how well they stack up against the citizens of Texas in a court of law...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Rebel1972 wrote:Was it not common until the middle of the last century for girls to get married at ages younger than 18?
Perhaps. That was then. Today, we know better.
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I see I'm in the minority. I'm good with that. I have yet to see any Schutzenstaffel tactics in this case. Except of course by the brainwashing pedophiles. They are pretty good when it comes to picking on kids. Now we get to see how well they stack up against the citizens of Texas in a court of law...
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

I see I'm in the minority. I'm good with that. I have yet to see any Schutzenstaffel tactics in this case. Except of course by the brainwashing pedophiles. They are pretty good when it comes to picking on kids. Now we get to see how well they stack up against the citizens of Texas in a court of law....
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Saw an interesting B 86
Replies: 7
Views: 1228

Sounds awfully sweet!!!
by El Mac
Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: POLITICS - Greatest threat to our freedom
Replies: 115
Views: 14924

Somehow I don't think rescueing underage children from pedophiles is "hitlerish". Actually, its been long overdue. I think back to the good ol' days when a few Rangers would have rode in and shot all of the pedophiles and case closed. Lawyers. :roll: That is the problem with the "law&...

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