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by 577nitro
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:06 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

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by 577nitro
Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Photos

The modified carrier, failed ww guns extractor, and some cool big dog cartridges.


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by 577nitro
Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:28 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

I just looked at my notes. 9x 57 rimmed is what I was looking at. Less power and less pressure. A 20 gauge shotgun action is not really strong enough for much more. I have something in a combo for when I want to launch 400 grains at 1300 fps. You know, I think I did look at the 9.75r case for the 4...
by 577nitro
Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Marlin 1895G 3.175” length COL Mod. I have been studying how to do this for months and months, since I was waiting on my reamers and other parts and finally decided I had it fingered out. I wanted to be able to use longer bullets without having to seat them so far down and lose case capacity. This p...
by 577nitro
Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

You’re thinking about the 9.3x72R similar to a 375H&H rimmed. Legal in most African counties for dangerous game, little on the high side for pressure on a break action, but there are a few out there. Use a strong action with bushed pins so you don’t have a primer failure blow the butt stock up i...
by 577nitro
Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Well boys I finally got the Reamer for this about three months ago from Manson Reamers, great quality as usual. Hornady requires a fire formed cartridge to make the dies, so I need to somehow load a couple rounds the hard way. I haven’t reamed the 1886 yet, just haven’t had time, working on a couple...
by 577nitro
Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:22 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Marlin 1895G long Cartridge Mod
Replies: 2
Views: 173

Marlin 1895G long Cartridge Mod

For a while I’ve been studying this and finally went ahead did the mod. Used McPherson’s book as a guide, but certainly did not have all the information to do it. I had to work a lot of tuning and smithing issues, but it’s working great. I did this on my test mule JM 1895 which I had already convert...
by 577nitro
Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

NItro, it sounds like you really did your homework here! Well done my friend. The McPherson 510 Kodiak Express was also a good option but hard to come by now as Mic has retired from gunsmithing. You are right and the selection of 458 bullets is very useful. I look forward to your results. Really we...
by 577nitro
Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:42 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

JFE wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:25 am Here’s a link to a reference to the experimental 46 WCF:

http://www.cartridgecollector.net/46-wi ... enter-fire
Looks promising, I wonder what the H2O volume is?

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by 577nitro
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Your 450 wildcat is a logical extension of the 450 Alaskan. The 450 Alaskan was designed around the 348 Win case but with good strong brass available in 50/110, it would make sense to design a new cartridge that would utilise a full length 50/110 case. I assume your wildcat is based on a necked dow...
by 577nitro
Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Those are some nice doubles, I love the wood, very nice. Loads right on for the 405W, I've built one for a friend on a 20ga action, light and fast. Now if I can just get somebody to sponsor me on a trip to Africa for a DG hunt with my doubles..and LG's wildcat's...I'll gladly write up a nice fat art...
by 577nitro
Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

As an aside, I also have A Winchester 1895 .405 WCF and a Simson Suhl .405 WCF double rifle. The 1895 has used 400 grain Woodies to take Cape BUff in Africa and equals the 450/400 DR in performance. It can be rewarding to use a dated, but proven rifle design and use it with modern ammo components t...
by 577nitro
Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

Here's some photos of the test fitting the 450AK 2.4" Max on my unmodified 1886. Max length that will fit unmodified is 2.8", better fit is 2.77. We might reduce the case to 2.300 to 2.350, doing test tonight.

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by 577nitro
Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

The COAL looks far longer than the 450AK next to it. My AK loads to about 2.75", and I think the '86 will handle 2.88" or slightly more. Perhaps it will go farther ... but those look WAY long. Your right, about 2.88" is the max COL in an 86', that's just a dummy round in the photo fo...
by 577nitro
Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

I understand the 45-90 conversion and ability, I even purchased a set of dies for it. However, having built a number of double rifles, I'm all about low pressure. If your achieving 458win Mag performance your also generating 458 win mag pressures, which can exceed 60K. Your loads are probably below ...
by 577nitro
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

Re: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

So like a longer 450 AK? Pretty neat! I have a custom Model 88 Winchester in the works in 416/284 McPherson that will have similar ballistics but more pressure. -Tutt https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/ammunition_wildcat_0612/84509 Basically, but trick is the taper for feeding, I have three ...
by 577nitro
Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"
Replies: 34
Views: 2595

New Wildcat Project for my 1886 450 2.44"

I've been working on some projects to increase the striking power without generating crazy pressures and have developed what I think is a good solution. Working with Manson Reamers I've finalized and submitted my specs to them for a set a reamers and gauges for what I'm calling 450x2.4" JES (fo...
by 577nitro
Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

So I finally got the gun in my hands, and it's everything I hoped for. Incredibly light and fast pointing, very smooth action. I have two other model 94's, a mid 50' and a mid 70's both Win originals (30-30) and there is a defiantly a difference in fit and finish between them. The Jap version is muc...
by 577nitro
Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: People have lost their minds
Replies: 32
Views: 2639

Re: People have lost their minds

Here ya go!! https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925597485 it seems like a lot to me. but pickup trucks with a couple of options are getting up around 100k. there are probably thousands of Americans who can keep bidding the prices up. Same with 1886's. They can by ten a day and still not run out of mone...
by 577nitro
Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: People have lost their minds
Replies: 32
Views: 2639

Re: People have lost their minds

I've recently come into enough money that I can purchase any firearms or other stuff that I wish with almost no limit. Since it happened, I haven't purchased anything. I already have a few quality firearms, none of which are valuable, but all of which are good hunters. My 18 year old pickup runs we...
by 577nitro
Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: People have lost their minds
Replies: 32
Views: 2639

Re: People have lost their minds

IF they had any to begin with! :roll: Whatever happened to the days when all people had was 1 rifle, 1 handgun and 1 shotgun (if they were lucky enough to have the need!)! Unfortunatly, those days seem to be LONG gone! I play this game with my gun buddies, from double rifle guys to AR nuts...always...
by 577nitro
Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: People have lost their minds
Replies: 32
Views: 2639

Re: People have lost their minds

Anybody know how to contact that guy? I’ve got a pre-64 model 94 that I’d be interested in selling to him…. If a run of the mill Marlin is worth that surely my 94 is worth at least $15k…. Hell yeah, I have two 94' one is an original 1954 94, and a mid 70's 94 both in nerty-nerty..... I can't believ...
by 577nitro
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

Didn't read all the posts but all I can say is wow, you got a jewel, and get equipped to shoot it as is! No doubt another of the great cartridges that just never developed a following, but that don't mean squat if you can get furnished to use it. That's what I would do and enjoy every minute of it....
by 577nitro
Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:36 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

I don't believe .450 Marlin dies are custom, at least they weren't. I might have a spare set. I will take a look when I get a chance. jb 8) I was told if the dies are not currently in production then you have to order them through the Custom dies shop as they are a one off run. What I do is order t...
by 577nitro
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

Big Bore is one of their actual terms. There is no large frame. Roger that my mistake. I’m quite confused now though. I went to the Winchester web site and they list a bunch of supposedly current Model lever guns for sale and current manufacturing. They do list the Mdl94 in many delicious versions,...
by 577nitro
Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:25 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

I think this is the ad for it. Wish mine was a take down, that would really cool, but I think I’ll be happy as is. Starting to think it might be fairly rare. Still doing research, anybody have dies? Looks like a another custom set from Hornady…and a six month wait! Maybe I might be able to use 45-70...
by 577nitro
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

After some thinking and tinkering….I think I’m gonna scrounge up the dies and brass and just keep it a 450M for the time being. I’ve found some ammo, grabbed 100 rounds should be good for a while. I really won’t know anything until it arrives next week and I can Start measuring things. I really don’...
by 577nitro
Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

That's really neat! Is that the original chambering??? Didn't think the '94 action is that strong. -Tutt Yup it's the original chambering, it was made in 2000 offered from Browning, it's a large frame, not the same as the original 30-30win version. The 450M is a 45KPSI round, so I think it's plenty...
by 577nitro
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

Bearskinner wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:02 pm In 450 Alaskan, you should be able to keep the barrel stock, just ream the chamber to the new caliber. The tube should be ok to house the larger diameter case. Might have to open up the loading gate?
Yeah, I converted a M1895G to 450AK, really love it too, great round, lots of power.
by 577nitro
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Re: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

That's really neat! Is that the original chambering??? Didn't think the '94 action is that strong. -Tutt Yup it's the original chambering, it was made in 2000 offered from Browning, it's a large frame, not the same as the original 30-30win version. The 450M is a 45KPSI round, so I think it's plenty...
by 577nitro
Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin
Replies: 33
Views: 2833

Just purchased a large frame Win1894 in 450Marlin

I just scored this, I've never seen a 94 in a large frame big bore. It's a Browning/Miroku in 450 Marlin, ported barrel, full length mag, tapped for scope, etc. I'm pretty sure I'm going to convert it into either a 450AK or 50AK. Nothing wrong with 450 Mar other than it's an orphaned cartridge, we'l...
by 577nitro
Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The new Ruger Marlins...Crazy Dealer Markups! $$$
Replies: 19
Views: 2051

The new Ruger Marlins...Crazy Dealer Markups! $$$

Has anybody noticed the absolutely crazy prices the new marlins are being sold at? I thought, hey it's just wishful thinking on the dealers pricing on the sites, but nope people are actually bidding on them at those inflated prices....crazy! I've seen $3000.00+ FOR A MARLIN??? Maybe a sweet Win 1886...
by 577nitro
Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

Re: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads

I have the RCBS 450AK dies. Work fine for me. Not sure where you'd get them these days though. This is my case exactly. Yup, that’s the one I used, and sent that exact drawing to Hornady. I had them make two sets, encase I sell the gun I still have a set for me. It only took six months to get them…
by 577nitro
Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

Re: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads

In fact, the performance of my 1886 45-90 in Africa (one bull ele, multiple buff, leopard, etc) convinced me that no more gun is actually needed, so that made the decision to go ahead with upgrading my Beretta .45-70 to a 45-90. Aaron Little is doing the work and well if I may say so. Using North F...
by 577nitro
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

Re: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads

Sir's Thank you for your responses! My own experience has been that the 45-70 loads are about 5 to 10 percent lower Velocities and I adjust the loads to achieve the desired FPS. I had to have Hornady make a couple sets of reloading dies, custom made, as I could not find any for the 450AK proper. I d...
by 577nitro
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:38 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

Re: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads

Thanks, squirrels to buffs and everything in between! :D
by 577nitro
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:20 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

450 Alaskan Reloading / Loads

Sir's

Just curious about any loads others have worked up for the 450AK. I have been going off 45-70 loads and adjusting to get velocities to where I want.

I'm currently shooting these in a Marlin 1895G I converted, and just love it.

577nitro